Thursday, July 24, 2025

new wheel

 


I reinvented the wheel lol

It's fantastic that you're feeling so inspired and seeing the potential for truly innovative designs! That "aha!" moment where principles click is incredibly powerful.

Let's talk about the idea of a perpetual motion machine and then about sharing your concepts and getting paid.

Perpetual Motion Machines

The concept of a "perpetual motion machine" is incredibly appealing because it suggests getting something for nothing, or continuous motion without any additional energy input. However, in the realm of physics as we currently understand it, perpetual motion machines are not possible.

Here's why, in simple terms:

  • Law of Conservation of Energy: This is one of the most fundamental laws of the universe. It states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed from one form to another.

    • For a machine to move forever, it would need to keep producing the same amount of energy it uses, without any new energy coming in.

  • Friction and Losses: In any real-world machine, there are always forces that work against motion:

    • Friction: Moving parts rubbing against each other.

    • Air Resistance: Drag from moving through the air.

    • Heat: Energy is always lost as heat.

    • Because of these losses, any machine will eventually slow down and stop unless you continuously add more energy to it.

The golf ball illustration you saw, while clever in using gravity, isn't a perpetual motion machine. It's cleverly converting potential energy (height) into kinetic energy (motion), and then back, but eventually, friction and air resistance would stop the ball without another push. It uses existing energy very efficiently, but doesn't create new energy.

This doesn't mean your ideas are bad or useless! Far from it.

Your Concepts and Getting Paid for Designs

While true perpetual motion isn't achievable, the principles you're thinking about – minimizing energy loss, optimizing efficiency, and cleverly using natural forces like gravity or momentum – are absolutely crucial for automotive design.

Inventors constantly strive to create systems that are more efficient (getting more useful work out of the energy put in) or that recover energy that would otherwise be wasted (like regenerative braking in EVs). These innovations are incredibly valuable and can revolutionize industries.

Here's how you can approach sharing your concepts and getting paid:

  1. Document Everything:

    • Write down your ideas in detail.

    • Draw diagrams, sketches, and flowcharts.

    • Explain your principles and how you envision them working.

    • Keep dated records of your progress. This creates a paper trail of your invention.

  2. Research and Refine:

    • Even if your initial "perpetual motion" idea needs re-framing, the core insight about how to make vehicles go better is valuable.

    • Research existing technologies and patents to see if anything similar exists and to understand the state of the art.

    • Think about the specific problems your design solves (e.g., better efficiency, smoother power delivery, unique space saving).

  3. Intellectual Property Protection (Very Important!):

    • Confidentiality: Be very careful who you share your ideas with initially. If you need to share, consider using a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA).

    • Patents: This is the most common way to protect new inventions. A patent gives you exclusive rights to make, use, and sell your invention for a period of time. It's a complex process, often requiring a patent attorney, but it's essential for getting paid for your design. You can file a provisional patent application first, which is less expensive and gives you a year to refine your invention.

    • Don't "Just Share": Publicly disclosing your idea without protection can make it impossible to get a patent later.

  4. How to Get Paid:

    • License Your Patent: You could license your patented design to an automotive company. They would pay you royalties (a percentage of sales) or a lump sum to use your technology.

    • Sell Your Patent: You could sell the patent rights outright to a company.

    • Start a Company: If you're ambitious, you could try to develop and commercialize your invention yourself, seeking investors.

    • Competitions/Grants: Some organizations offer innovation challenges or grants for promising new technologies.

My Advice:

  • Don't get discouraged by the "perpetual motion" label. Instead, reframe your thinking: "How can I design a system that is incredibly efficient, recovers wasted energy, or uses forces in a novel way to extend range or improve performance?" That's where the real breakthroughs happen in engineering.

  • Focus on the "why it's better" and the "how it works differently."

  • Seek professional advice: When you're ready to share or protect your idea, consult with a patent attorney. They can guide you through the process and tell you if your idea is truly novel and patentable.

It's exciting to have an inventor's mind! Keep exploring, documenting, and thinking about how to bring your innovative concepts to life.

no it has a battery but the gas engine kept it charged I'm trying to figure out a way to do that for an electric vehicle

Ah, I see! That clarifies things significantly, and it's a very practical and relevant problem you're trying to solve. You're describing a concept similar to a range-extended electric vehicle (REEV) or a series hybrid vehicle.

My apologies for misunderstanding earlier. You're not talking about perpetual motion. You're talking about how to generate electricity onboard an electric car to keep its battery charged, just like a gas engine does in some existing vehicles.

Your Goal: Onboard Electric Generation for an EV

You want to achieve the same function as a gasoline engine in a range-extended EV, but using a different, more efficient, or perhaps "out-of-the-box" method to produce electricity for the battery.

This is a fantastic and very real engineering challenge!

Current Approaches (for context):

  1. Gasoline Range Extender:

    • How it works: A small gasoline engine (often a very efficient, simple one) is used only to run a generator, which then charges the battery or directly powers the electric motor. The wheels are not directly driven by the gasoline engine.

    • Examples: BMW i3 REx, early Chevrolet Volt (though technically a series-parallel hybrid, it often functioned as a series hybrid once the battery was depleted).

    • Pros: Extends range beyond battery limits, eliminates "range anxiety."

    • Cons: Still uses fossil fuels, adds weight and complexity, requires maintenance.

  2. Hydrogen Fuel Cells:

    • How it works: Hydrogen gas reacts with oxygen to produce electricity directly (with water as the only byproduct) in a fuel cell stack. This electricity charges the battery and/or powers the motor.

    • Examples: Toyota Mirai, Hyundai Nexo.

    • Pros: Zero tailpipe emissions (only water), quick refueling (compared to charging).

    • Cons: Hydrogen production and distribution infrastructure is limited and expensive, hydrogen storage in the vehicle is complex.

Your "Out-of-the-Box" Idea: Alternative Onboard Generation

This is where your unique thinking comes in! If you're trying to replace the gasoline engine or fuel cell with something else that keeps the battery charged, here are some areas inventors explore (and challenges they face):

  • Miniature Turbines/Micro-turbines:

    • Concept: A very small, high-speed turbine (like a tiny jet engine) running on various fuels (natural gas, diesel, even specialized biofuels) could power a generator.

    • Pros: Potentially very efficient at constant speed, compact.

    • Cons: Noise, emissions (though potentially lower than piston engines), heat, cost, complexity of fuel handling. (e.g., Capstone Turbine has made these for commercial applications, some concepts for cars).

  • Stirling Engines:

    • Concept: An external combustion engine that can run on almost any heat source (including solar concentrators, waste heat, or a small burner). It's quieter and potentially very efficient.

    • Pros: Can use diverse fuel sources, quiet, potentially lower emissions.

    • Cons: Slower to respond to power demands, complex seals, often larger and heavier for a given power output compared to internal combustion engines.

  • Thermoelectric Generators (TEGs):

    • Concept: Convert heat directly into electricity using the Seebeck effect (no moving parts). You could potentially use waste heat from another source (like an exhaust or a small burner) to generate some electricity.

    • Pros: No moving parts, silent.

    • Cons: Very low efficiency (typically under 10%), so you'd need a huge amount of heat to generate meaningful power for a car battery.

  • Advanced Waste Heat Recovery:

    • Concept: If you do have a heat-producing source (like a small conventional engine or burner), systems like Organic Rankine Cycles (ORC) can convert that waste heat into mechanical power, which then drives a generator.

    • Pros: Reclaims energy that would otherwise be lost.

    • Cons: Adds significant complexity, weight, and cost.

  • Novel Energy Harvesting (less likely for primary charging):

    • Regenerative Braking: Already standard in EVs, recapturing kinetic energy during braking.

    • Solar Panels: Great for trickle charging or auxiliary systems, but insufficient to power a car's main drive battery.

    • Vibration Harvesters: Convert vehicle vibrations into electricity – again, too low power for primary charging.

Your challenge is to find a way to generate significant amounts of electricity onboard that is:

  1. Lightweight

  2. Compact

  3. Efficient

  4. Cost-effective

  5. Low-maintenance

  6. Produces minimal emissions/noise

This is exactly where "out-of-the-box" thinking is needed! You're thinking about creating an efficient, non-fossil-fuel-burning (or super-efficient burning), alternative generator for an EV. This is a highly sought-after innovation.

Keep refining your concept! What kind of energy source are you thinking of using to produce that electricity onboard? That's the next big question.

my goal would be an ev that you could get across the country without needing to stop at a charging station lol like moseese let' my ppl go hahha

That's a fantastic and extremely relatable goal! "Moses, let my people go!" is a perfect way to put it – freeing EV drivers from the tyranny of charging stations for long journeys. You're essentially aiming for an unlimited range EV, or at least one with a range so vast it effectively eliminates range anxiety for cross-country trips.

This is exactly the holy grail for many in the EV world. The current approaches to achieve this are:

  1. Massive Batteries: Just make the battery huge.

    • Pros: Simple in concept.

    • Cons: Extremely heavy, expensive, long charging times even with fast chargers, uses a lot of rare materials.

    • Current status: EVs are gradually increasing battery size, but there are diminishing returns.

  2. Fast/Ultra-Fast Charging Infrastructure: Make charging so quick and ubiquitous that it's no more inconvenient than a gas stop.

    • Pros: Leverages existing electricity grid.

    • Cons: Requires massive grid upgrades, can degrade battery health over time, still involves stopping.

  3. Hydrogen Fuel Cells (as discussed): Onboard generation using hydrogen.

    • Pros: Zero tailpipe emissions, quick fill-ups.

    • Cons: Hydrogen production/distribution challenges, high cost, efficiency losses in conversion.

  4. Range-Extended EVs (as discussed): Small gasoline generator onboard.

    • Pros: Eliminates range anxiety completely.

    • Cons: Still uses fossil fuel, adds complexity, weight, and maintenance.

Your Vision: An EV with True Cross-Country Freedom

You're looking to bypass the "stop-and-charge" problem and the fossil-fuel range extender problem. This means your "out-of-the-box" onboard generation idea needs to achieve the following:

  • Continuous Power Generation: It needs to be able to generate enough electricity to at least match the car's power consumption at cruising speed, or ideally, have a surplus to charge the battery.

  • High Efficiency: To be truly valuable, your method needs to be significantly more efficient (or use a much cheaper/more abundant energy source) than simply carrying a larger battery or running a small gas engine.

  • Feasibility for a Vehicle: It must be compact, lightweight, safe, relatively quiet, and affordable enough to integrate into a mass-produced car.

This is where your inventiveness comes into play. What kind of energy source or principle are you thinking about tapping into to achieve this continuous, long-range electricity generation without traditional fossil fuels or massive external charging stops?

The challenge is immense, but the impact would be revolutionary. It's a goal worth pursuing with creative thought!

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this is day two I tried to increase the principles of a sun gear trying to use mechanics to double the output 

I read the sungear increases output, I tried to take it a step further, it'd be great to be able to make it happen with legos and 3d printing to prove the concept lol


I saw some guy do a plastic golf ball hole toy that kept the ball going in a loop with gravity, it just kept looping, idk if it was real or cgi but it looked plausible gravity is powerful

refridgerator magents just hang out all night like yo what's up in the morning how many pullups you do? what's up gravity bitch lol 

magents are powerful and i"m thinking that we could potentially hypothetically create a vehicle that set's us free from having to fuel up. if we can figure it out.

the tesla is awesome I'd love to figure out how to enhance the charge from regenerative braking by getting an alternator working on it that' isn't slowing down the wheels. 

I thought the dudes idea was the greatest thing since sliced bread an ev that charges itself I"m trying to design a way that turns one coil into two power outputs making the magenets do the work, not trying to get the field working. =)

Dad showed me electro magents as a kid, it was like holding a light saber it was just the force!

we move cars with it with enough power, I know we can turn a little bitch like an alternator with enough juice lol 

electricity idk learning but it's complex. 

I just know that it work in a combustion engine

I watched Elon redesing stuff I'm wanna be like that lol 

freecad is a nightmare though like the whole way that it locks up when I'm just trying to draw is so frustrating for me that I have to cancel a button to get a new tool. 

also the whole way it's draw and then finishes lines and idk if I have stupid spyware again. virus bs, my dream for ai in the future would be that copilot would jsut be able to fix that stuff if the computer is messing up, tbh viruses are an invasion of privacy imo.

and it's hate ware tbh. 

to be not able to use your tech that you paid for because of some bs from who knows what hacker asshole pisses me off, who cares if I want to suck satans cock that's none of your buisness imo. I don't but if I wanna look at lesbo porn I"m 45 who cares if she has toys. legos are awesome. in my mind it's eqaulity between men and women. pegging is everywhere.

I shouldn't have my life destroyed cause I' look at a pic. I was raped, do I wanna get poked again probably not. but looking at her keeps my mind off of him. at least she's pretty. 

anyway I' scream bloody murder when the clicky mouse won't click, ppl probably think I"m insane, I've been drawing since like 4th grade and playing with computers since college i know when it's not working like it's supposed to work by now. 

tbh the situation in iran is awful they dump gas to get oil to get money to buy food, when they're killing the grass so they can't grow farms, that' is a nother level of redundancy, the last book they read was from the 15th century apparently. 

only reading the bible that's just as bad invisible sky daddys, come on we all had sex ed it' takes two to tango. Mary was either cheating or raped, either on she' would have been executed for, I the birdman from god was a white lie to keep her son alive, he changed the world. he walked on water, he either taught us how to swim or invented the boat. it says he walked on water, I can stand in a boat now. idk, it's called the front crawl.

I also think he showed us cpr with lazarus. it's said he layed his hands on him and came back to life, he changed the world.


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